EL AL Will Exclusively Fly 787s To NYC As Of Late 2018 (Bye Bye First Class)

EL AL Will Exclusively Fly 787s To NYC As Of Late 2018 (Bye Bye First Class)

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EL AL is in the process of refreshing their longhaul fleet. Up until recently, EL AL’s longhaul fleet consisted of four 747s, six 777s, and seven 767s. The airline has started the process of taking delivery of new 787s, which they’re using to replace their 747s (they’ll be phasing them out over the next couple of years). The airline has nine of these on order, and so far has two of them in their fleet.


EL AL 777

EL AL’s flagship market has long been New York to Tel Aviv. While they have the most flights to New York JFK, they also have flights to Newark, so as of now they have up to 3x daily flights between NYC airports and Tel Aviv.

The first longhaul route to get EL AL’s new 787s was Newark to Tel Aviv, probably since EL AL views United as their biggest competitor between the US and Israel, so they want to offer as competitive of a product in that market as possible.

Up until now, EL AL’s two daily flights between JFK and Tel Aviv have been operated by 777s and 747s, though soon the airline will be phasing these planes out of the market. EL AL plans on adding all 787 service between NYC and Tel Aviv as of later this year. Specifically:

  • As of September 15, 2018, EL AL will be replacing their daily 777 flight with a 787
  • As of October 27, 2018, EL AL will be replacing their daily 747 flight with a 787

This represents a huge capacity cut, so to make up for it, EL AL will be launching a second daily 787 flight between Newark and Tel Aviv as of March 25, 2018.

This means that by October 2018, EL AL will be operating up to 4x daily 787s flights between the NYC area and Tel Aviv.

With these aircraft swaps, EL AL will be completely eliminating first class between Tel Aviv and New York, as the 787s don’t have first class. However, EL AL’s first class hard product was woefully outdated, so it’s not that big of a loss (though the soft product was very good).


EL AL’s 777 first class

At the same time, this will represent a huge improvement in terms of the business class product, as EL AL goes from a 2-3-2 layout (on the 777) with angled seats, to direct aisle access from every seat (on the 787).


EL AL’s 777 business class


EL AL’s 787 business class

EL AL’s 787s have premium economy, which the 777s and 747’s don’t.


EL AL’s 787 premium economy

In economy, passengers are going from a spacious but outdated 3-3-3 configuration on the 777, to a more modern but tighter seat on the 787.


EL AL’s 777 economy


EL AL’s 787 economy

Eliminating the 777 and 747 to New York was coming sooner or later. Since this is their flagship route, I can see both sides of it — on one hand, you want as much capacity as possible. On the other hand, you also want as good of a product as possible. So this change is positive for those in business class or premium economy, while it’s not necessarily good news for those in economy, or those who liked to book EL AL’s first class for the more exclusive experience.

(Tip of the hat do Alon & Dan’s Deals)

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  1. DB Guest

    Don’t know if this actually happened, I’m scheduled to fly Saturday JFK-TLV on a 747

  2. asfs Guest

    they don't roll on shabbos, donny

  3. Mohammad Saleem Guest

    What about Sudan Air? Air Algerie? Aircalin?

  4. NYC fly Guest

    @schar

    You’ll be waiting a while. El Al has no competition on that route so they have no incentive to upgrade their equipment. It’ll eventually happen as they phase out older aircraft, but not anytime soon.

  5. schar Guest

    still waiting for the new plane to fly out of LAX......................

  6. Jonathan Guest

    @ OT
    If im not mistaken, Hong Kong flights are moving to 787 starting next month using LY's third 787, replacing current 777. I assume LY's last 747 route will be Bangkok.

  7. ROBERT REISMAN Member

    In the meantime...what markets will get the 747. As it's not scheduled to be phased out this year.

  8. OT Guest

    Strange that they are not announcing an upgrade to the 777 product, especially since it's what they use for TLV-HKG, now facing stiff competition from CX, with a much better product on their A350.

  9. Amol Member

    Daily? I thought flights don’t operate on Shabbat.

    1. lucky OMAAT

      @ Amol -- Fair enough, daily(ish). ;)

  10. NYC guy Guest

    I’d take the 787 business class over the 747/777 first class any day of the week.

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DB Guest

Don’t know if this actually happened, I’m scheduled to fly Saturday JFK-TLV on a 747

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asfs Guest

they don't roll on shabbos, donny

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Robert Guest

Poor Palestinians.

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