Could American Launch Flights To Abu Dhabi?

Could American Launch Flights To Abu Dhabi?

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Now that the merger between American and US Airways is complete, the “new American” is the world’s largest airline. While they’ve long been the strongest US airline to Latin America, it’s nice to see them expand to other regions, as they’ve been doing lately.

American will soon be launching service to Sydney, and there are reliable rumors of them launching flights to Auckland soon as well. But Auckland isn’t the only new rumored destination. One other destination which has been consistently rumored is Abu Dhabi.

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FlyerTalk member roadwarrior84 wrote a post today which sums up similar rumors to what I’ve heard:

A very knowledgeable insider at AA has told me they plan on announcing the DFW-AUH 2x/wk frequency in the coming weeks, along with the LAX-AKL route. Apparently going to the Middle East with a 77W and to AKL with a 787.

Now, she said MIA-AUH was actually their first pick as they would increase connectivity between ME/parts of Asia with Latam/Caribbean and there is plenty of market there (not sure what that really means???). However, seems like after QR decided to go daily on DOH-MIA and is doing well with it, paired up with EY asking AA to pick up the slack on their AUH-DFW and grow their partnership, AA decided to go with DFW-AUH. As JonNYC said somewhere, they will try it out which means the route will probably be alive for 6 months to a year and will remain if AA is indeed making money on it. She mentions the brains behind AA know for sure the route will be a success

Apparently the reason they have waited so long to announce is a JV with EY could be possible, and they working on all the details. However, AA is walking on eggshells with QR who knows about all this but can´t really do much about it. So apparently QR is retaliating by having conversations with B6 to expand on their relationship. Sounds like a bad soap opera but apparently that´s what´s been going on. Not sure where the whole OneWorld stuff goes in all of this but seems like AA and QR are not very good friends. I would have thought a second DFW-DOH or MIA-DOH would make more sense but apparently not.

Don´t kill me for this. I´m just stating what I was told and it´s a pretty good source. It may end up getting killed before it´s finally approved or things may change. Just thought I´d share with you what people at AA are talking about.

I’ve frequently heard rumors of American flying to Abu Dhabi, though what I haven’t heard with any certainty is:

  • Whether the flight will be out of Dallas or Miami (Miami makes more sense to me, as it’s a route not presently served by Etihad)
  • Which plane will operate the route (the 777-300ER speculation sort of surprises me, as this seems like a route which is much better suited for a 787)
  • How many times per week the flight will operate (admittedly American has limited 777-300ER capacity remaining, but 2x per week doesn’t seem like it would be giving the route a fair shake)

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With that in mind, there are a couple of things which would make this route especially interesting:

Etihad over Qatar Airways?

American is unique in that they partner with both Etihad Airways and Qatar Airways. American began a partnership with Etihad in 2011, an arrangement which is outside of oneworld. Earlier this year they even strengthened the partnership by increasing mileage earning rates on Etihad.

Etihad-777

Meanwhile American’s partnership with Qatar Airways directly isn’t that strong, though Qatar Airways has been in oneworld since 2013, and also has some codeshare flights with American. In theory you’d think they’d have a stronger partnership due to their codesharing and mutual participation in oneworld, though in practice Qatar Airways doesn’t actually seem that committed to oneworld, and has even threatened to leave.

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If you’re going to launch flights to one city in that part of the Middle East, it’s generally going to be Dubai, as it’s the biggest market. However, there would no connecting traffic there (as American doesn’t partner with Emirates or flydubai), which makes it interesting that American seems to be choosing Abu Dhabi over Doha. It seems like they do indeed value their relationship with Etihad more than their relationship with Qatar. Or more accurately, they see more potential with it.

What happened to the battle against the Gulf carriers?

Rumors suggest that American may even form a joint venture with Etihad, which is the highest form of cooperation between airlines. It means the airlines would have revenue sharing across their flights, almost creating metal neutrality between the two airlines.

As most of you probably know by now, the US carriers are in a huge battle against the Gulf carriers, whereby they’re trying to stop their growth on account of unfair practices. It would be a bit ironic (though hardly surprising) to see a partnership grow between a US and Gulf carrier, given the amount of shaming which has been done of any business which chooses to associate itself with a Gulf carrier.

Then again, of the “big three” US carriers, American seems to be the least vocal about hating on the Gulf carriers. It seems to be mostly Delta’s battleor perhaps more accurately, Richard Anderson’s battle.

Bottom line

It would be quite interesting to see American add flights to Abu Dhabi. This is a reliable rumor I’ve heard over and over, so I wouldn’t be surprised to see the service added, along with the long-rumored Auckland service. That being said, to me it would make a lot more sense to add a flight out of Miami on a 787 (which has a better shot at being profitable), rather than simply adding more capacity out of Dallas, a route on which Etihad can’t even fill their planes.

I’d love to be able to use systemwide upgrades to confirm business class on American’s flights to Abu Dhabi!

American-Business-Class

What do you make of the rumor of American launching flights to Abu Dhabi? Do you think it could happen?

(Tip of the hat to View from the Wing)

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  1. GUWonder Guest

    QR is entering into a codeshare agreement with JetBlue for flights into/out of BOS.

  2. GUWonder Guest

    AUH is an interesting one for passengers going between the Americas and the Middle East/South Asia/Central Asia. EY flies into a lot of cities in Asia that carriers from Europe or the Americas don't serve on their own metal or don't serve with the kind of frequency/timings to make for shorter total travel times.

    AA routing traffic via EY instead of QR to get to many/most of those Middle East/South Asia/Central Asia airports can't...

    AUH is an interesting one for passengers going between the Americas and the Middle East/South Asia/Central Asia. EY flies into a lot of cities in Asia that carriers from Europe or the Americas don't serve on their own metal or don't serve with the kind of frequency/timings to make for shorter total travel times.

    AA routing traffic via EY instead of QR to get to many/most of those Middle East/South Asia/Central Asia airports can't exactly thrill QR, but QR -- even with BA's back/backing -- can't really do much of anything about what AA decides to do with this.

  3. James Guest

    Wow so you copied this story of another blog who took the story from flyertalker. Where's the creativity gone? All these posts are just rehashed versions of what everyone else has said (or credit card referrals)

  4. Levy Flight Guest

    The problem with the idea that an airport in the US can provide a connection between S / Central America and Middle East / Far East / Africa is that passengers can't just transit. So many nationals this is a real problem. Airports like Panama or Mexico City will have edge if ME companies can connect through.

  5. Bill Guest

    If you can't beat 'em, join 'em! AA needs to fly the route 2-3 x week, so they can have a j/v w/ EY on the route. I flew the route on EY a couple of weeks ago in Y, and it was full both ways. J looked pretty full too. Y was 95+% South Asian. It's better for AA to get a piece of the action, rather than nothing at all!

  6. JonNYC Guest

    The rumor that AA is strongly considering service to AUH is 100% true (I have no knowledge of the bank of the info in the FT post,) I have it from several beyond-reproach sources and have for many weeks.
    As to why they would do this, that I just plain have no idea.

  7. Tom Guest

    Seems like CX and QR are running dry, with CX pulling out of DOH, ending JV and stopping code shares with QR next year.

  8. TheRealBabushka Guest

    @Jonathan,

    Because QR is BA's creature.

    It does reveal the power dynamics at oneworld that whilst two key members have liaisons with an ME player (AA & QF), only one gets to be the principal wife in the hareem.

  9. TEX277 Guest

    "American is unique in that they partner with both Etihad Airways and Qatar Airways."

    Aren't Air Berlin, Malaysia Airlines and SriLankan Airlines all partners with both EY and QR too?

  10. Wyatt Guest

    Auckland is pretty much a sure thing. There is an internal AA video where a route planning manager is answering questions about new routes and he basically says "we need to expand in LA but gate constraints are an issue but new service to Sydney and Auckland are examples of us widening our portfolio out of the city."
    AUH, where there is smoke there is fire, so it's probably true. However Doug Parker has...

    Auckland is pretty much a sure thing. There is an internal AA video where a route planning manager is answering questions about new routes and he basically says "we need to expand in LA but gate constraints are an issue but new service to Sydney and Auckland are examples of us widening our portfolio out of the city."
    AUH, where there is smoke there is fire, so it's probably true. However Doug Parker has a very clear disdain for ME3 carriers so it's surprising to see them get closer. Twice a week though? AA and U.S. Have always shied away from anything less less than five times weekly. The logistics of that alone with crew scheduling would be crazy. A flight that long would require almost 24 hours "behind the door" for flight attendants and I can't imagine them having an aircraft on the ground for that long. There is a big push within AA to reduce these types of schedules, DFW-Edmonton being an example.

  11. Jonathan New Member

    Humor me - if AA and QR get along that poorly, why is it QR in oneworld and not EY?

  12. Joseph Guest

    Etihad has been increasing its code share flights out of Dallas, American is probably wanting to get involved with the route especially with the increasing Asian population in Dallas. Overall since Etihad already operates the route 3x weekly, I can see how American could fill a 787 on the DFW-AUH route. Not so sure about it as a 77W route however.

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GUWonder Guest

QR is entering into a codeshare agreement with JetBlue for flights into/out of BOS.

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GUWonder Guest

AUH is an interesting one for passengers going between the Americas and the Middle East/South Asia/Central Asia. EY flies into a lot of cities in Asia that carriers from Europe or the Americas don't serve on their own metal or don't serve with the kind of frequency/timings to make for shorter total travel times. AA routing traffic via EY instead of QR to get to many/most of those Middle East/South Asia/Central Asia airports can't exactly thrill QR, but QR -- even with BA's back/backing -- can't really do much of anything about what AA decides to do with this.

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James Guest

Wow so you copied this story of another blog who took the story from flyertalker. Where's the creativity gone? All these posts are just rehashed versions of what everyone else has said (or credit card referrals)

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