Who else tries to figure out who’s an award passenger in international first class?

Who else tries to figure out who’s an award passenger in international first class?

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If there’s one thing I’ve learned over the past six years of being a frequent flyer, it’s that you really shouldn’t judge what cabin people are flying in based on their age, appearance, etc. Back when I was 15 and top tier elite with United, I remember frequently being told “wrong line, buddy” when I tried to board with first class. At the same time I see why some agents have stereotypes as to what a first class passenger should look like, because probably 90% of the time they’re spot on.

Still, I’m a naturally nosy person, so I can’t help but wonder how much a person paid for their ticket, what their status is, etc. Part of it is the massive disparity between the prices people pay for the same product, more so than just about any other industry I can think of. I could have paid 30,000 miles (pro-rated) for an international first class segment, while the person across from me could have paid $10,000. Despite that, we’ll get exactly the same treatment. It’s crazy.

But that brings me to the point of this post. I flew Thai Airways first class from Bangkok to Paris yesterday, which is operated by their leased 777-300ER featuring first class suites.

In the Thai first class lounge I’m used to being the only American when I’m there, for a very simply reason – Thai doesn’t have a first class product to the US, but rather only to Europe and Australia (and intra-Asia on some routes). Now, some United passengers might use the Thai first class lounge in the morning, but I’m never there at that time.


Thai first class lounge

As I walked through the lounge I noticed there was a young, casually dressed couple that appeared to be American (based on their accents). Subconsciously I already asked myself “did they buy US Airways miles for this trip?” I don’t say that in a derogatory way like some people do (I’ve heard people go as far as calling international first class a trailer park thanks to US Airways selling miles, which I think is ridiculous). Instead, I actually mean it as a compliment – at the end of the day in the flying game, the passenger that sits the furthest up having paid the least wins, and most of the time that’s the person that bought US Airways miles (yes pot, this is kettle).

Anyway, I didn’t think much of it, though when the ground staff came to get my friend and I and take us to our flight to Paris, those two were escorted with us. The guy even had a Continental Gold Elite luggage tag on his bag. When they got aboard and saw the seats the girlfriend/wife/lady friend and him both had huge smiles on their faces. I even saw a flash in the cabin from a camera, which I assume came from them.

So to sum it up, these passengers:
a) Were in the Thai first class lounge despite no Thai first class service to the US
b) Are traveling from Asia to Europe as Americans, which is an awfully common way to go when traveling on an award ticket
c) The guy had a Continental Gold Elite luggage tag
d) They picked the Thai 777-300ER, which is very popular among us mileage nuts, given that it’s the best product Thai has


Thai first class suites

Anyway, the point more generally is that it’s always a fun game to try and pick out who’s an award passenger and who actually paid. As the number of people booking “ fun” award routings is on the rise (partly due to airlines liberalizing their routing rules and partly due to the amount of award availability going via Europe), I can’t help but think I’ll be crossing paths with more of these people.

So, 2D & 2G, are you out there somewhere?

And to the rest of you, fess up – who else tries to figure out who used miles and who paid cash?

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  1. Me Guest

    @Steve Kalman,

    Are you saying the gate agent wanted to take the ticket you paid for and sit you in coach to accommodate a self-entitled moron in getting a free upgrade? Your status should have never mattered! You had a ticket and a boarding pass!

  2. wxguy Guest

    I use the TG/F lounge at BKK at least three times a year. It's a lot tougher now that UA leaves BKK at 0605 (the lounge opens at 0515), but even at 15 minutes I'm happy :-)

    UA 804 (renumbered from 838) ex-BKK to NRT retimes to 0710 this winter :-)

  3. Steve Kalman Guest

    This entry reminded me of an F award I took a few years ago. (LAX-PHL, an internationally configured 767, my plane/flight of choice at that time) I was in booked in F and waiting to board. Someone who I think saw my boarding pass asked me when I bought my ticket and how much I paid for it. It seemed strange for him to ask, but I told him it was an award ticket. He...

    This entry reminded me of an F award I took a few years ago. (LAX-PHL, an internationally configured 767, my plane/flight of choice at that time) I was in booked in F and waiting to board. Someone who I think saw my boarding pass asked me when I bought my ticket and how much I paid for it. It seemed strange for him to ask, but I told him it was an award ticket. He then marched over to the gate and started yelling about being a "Chairman's Preferred" (USAir) and how he should get my seat because he was such a great customer.

    The gate agent came over to me and asked if I'd take a later flight to accommodate a businessman on a tight schedule. He was so loud, I heard the entire exchange. He said nothing about schedule. I asked the agent when the next flight was (2 hours) and if she could put me in F (only standby). I said no, he kept complaining. She came back to me and said that she'd have to move me to coach. I told her I had heard the entire exchange and that no one ever asked me about my status (USAir Gold that year, Chairmans the year before). I told her, loudly and assertively, since that apparently works, that I had my own status and to get a gate supervisor.

    That person heard my story, heard the gate agent (privately) and heard the loudmouth CPref. Gate agent walked (was sent?) away, I boarded F, and cPref boarded in coach.

    Since then, I've followed "don't ask, don't tell, don't guess."

  4. ordogg Guest

    As an aside, I actually snagged 2 seats in F on the CDG-BKK TG flight as a o/w redemption from the US to SIN DO 2012. I can't wait for the full tr and my trip ...

  5. JimSG Member

    Lucky--did you take advantage of the full body massage?

  6. Roxanne Guest

    Lucky - I was not that woman on your flight. I was heading in the opposite direction.

  7. JRL Guest

    I profile the same way. It's fairly easy to tell (sometimes). I strike up a convo and ask how often they fly the product, etc. We're in a metal tube together traveling at 500 miles an hour several miles up in the sky, people tend to talk to you when they're confined.

    Oh and Luck, that room in your TG F lounge pic at BKK is usually the one I choose when I'm not...

    I profile the same way. It's fairly easy to tell (sometimes). I strike up a convo and ask how often they fly the product, etc. We're in a metal tube together traveling at 500 miles an hour several miles up in the sky, people tend to talk to you when they're confined.

    Oh and Luck, that room in your TG F lounge pic at BKK is usually the one I choose when I'm not in one of the "Slumber Rooms" but the electrical outlets are falling apart and half the time I can't get any MacBook Jewce. Have they fixed them yet?

    JRL

  8. Mark Guest

    Galley not gallery. Ugh I wish we could edit posts.

  9. Mark Guest

    I spotted a similar couple in TK F JFK-IST. I cheat and look at the manifest in the gallery. Sure enough, they were FO (F cabin, O fare basis) like me. Everyone else I saw on the manifests both ways was FF (F cabin, F fare).

  10. lucky Guest

    @ Roxanne -- Were you the one on the flight, or where were you headed? Too bad we missed each other.

    @ Ian M -- Hah, close call.

  11. Ian M Guest

    Was in 1J on TG677 NRT-BKK on Aug 4... just missed each other

  12. Roxanne Guest

    OMG Lucky, I thought that was you in the Thai First Class lounge! I should have came-up and said hi.

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Me Guest

@Steve Kalman, Are you saying the gate agent wanted to take the ticket you paid for and sit you in coach to accommodate a self-entitled moron in getting a free upgrade? Your status should have never mattered! You had a ticket and a boarding pass!

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wxguy Guest

I use the TG/F lounge at BKK at least three times a year. It's a lot tougher now that UA leaves BKK at 0605 (the lounge opens at 0515), but even at 15 minutes I'm happy :-) UA 804 (renumbered from 838) ex-BKK to NRT retimes to 0710 this winter :-)

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Steve Kalman Guest

This entry reminded me of an F award I took a few years ago. (LAX-PHL, an internationally configured 767, my plane/flight of choice at that time) I was in booked in F and waiting to board. Someone who I think saw my boarding pass asked me when I bought my ticket and how much I paid for it. It seemed strange for him to ask, but I told him it was an award ticket. He then marched over to the gate and started yelling about being a "Chairman's Preferred" (USAir) and how he should get my seat because he was such a great customer. The gate agent came over to me and asked if I'd take a later flight to accommodate a businessman on a tight schedule. He was so loud, I heard the entire exchange. He said nothing about schedule. I asked the agent when the next flight was (2 hours) and if she could put me in F (only standby). I said no, he kept complaining. She came back to me and said that she'd have to move me to coach. I told her I had heard the entire exchange and that no one ever asked me about my status (USAir Gold that year, Chairmans the year before). I told her, loudly and assertively, since that apparently works, that I had my own status and to get a gate supervisor. That person heard my story, heard the gate agent (privately) and heard the loudmouth CPref. Gate agent walked (was sent?) away, I boarded F, and cPref boarded in coach. Since then, I've followed "don't ask, don't tell, don't guess."

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