Delta Selling 88% Of First Class Seats, Up From 14% in 2011

Delta Selling 88% Of First Class Seats, Up From 14% in 2011

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The Delta 2024 Investor Day is taking place today, and as usual, executives at the airline shared some details about the direction the carrier is headed. There was one statistic that’s particularly interesting, which should really make consumers think twice before being loyal to an airline.

Delta selling a vast majority of domestic first class seats

As flagged by View from the Wing, Delta executives have today highlighted just how much progress the airline has made when it comes to selling premium seats. Specifically, nowadays just 12% of Delta’s first class seats are going to passengers getting upgrades.

It’s absolutely wild to think how that number has changed over the years. Going back to 2011, Delta only sold 14% of its first class seats. So in 13 years, we’ve seen a more than six-fold increase in the percentage of first class seats sold.

It’s clear in which direction things are headed, as complimentary first class upgrades are increasingly becoming a thing of the past. First class domestically has gone from a cabin that loses money, to one that’s incredibly profitable.

Delta Investor Day presentation

It’s also worth emphasizing how quickly this is changing. Just over a year ago, Delta executives claimed that around 74% of first class seats were being sold, so that increase is continuing, and it sure feels like Delta won’t stop until that number is close to 100%.

Presumably the statistics about the number of first class seats being sold includes cash upgrades, mileage tickets, etc., with just complimentary elite upgrades contributing to that 12%.

Delta attributes a lot of the premium growth to millennials, who have more wealth than prior generations at the same age, and are also willing to splurge more on luxury travel.

Delta Investor Day presentation

Will SkyMiles members be more loyal while receiving less?

I don’t think anyone faults airlines for trying to sell as many first class seats as possible. That’s only logical. I also think Delta in particular does the best job of any US airline when it comes to pricing its first class reasonably, in a way where a leisure traveler could find it to be worthwhile.

Just take the below flight from Tampa to Boston as an example, and you’ll see the reasonable fare premium for each product “upgrade.”

Delta often has fair premium cabin pricing

But here’s the challenge, as I see it. In the United States, airlines make a large percentage of their profits from their loyalty programs, and in particular, from their co-brand credit card agreements. Airlines want their loyalty program members to not just be loyal when they book a flight, but also when they pull out their credit card, book a hotel, etc.

Airlines only seem to see upside in this area, and Delta hopes to increase its revenue from Amex by around 50% in the coming years.

Delta Investor Day presentation

If you ask me, those goals are kind of at odds with one another. The airline wants more people to pay for first class — which is totally fair — but also wants more people to be loyal to the airline, when one of the primary perks of elite status is complimentary upgrades.

We’ve seen Delta continue to increase elite requirements, arguing that there’s just such high demand for the carrier’s premium services. But at some point that just becomes pointless, when almost no seats are being “given away” to upgrades.

How does Delta justify this, and think the airline will keep increasing wallet share, while offering less? Well, Delta views SkyMiles as “a manifestation of [the] brand.” In other words, you won’t be loyal to SkyMiles because it offers the most value, but rather because you like Delta as a brand, and therefore you’ll want the company’s credit card.

Is there a certain point at which consumers will stop showing more loyalty to companies while continuing to receive less? Will people vote with their wallet, and look at the overall value proposition of what they’re receiving?

Call me a cynic, but I think Delta management is probably right, and the answer is “no.” The reality is that most consumers aren’t particularly savvy, and aren’t doing much to maximize their rewards. They spend on a credit card that’s connected to an airline or hotel group that they travel with a lot or like, without crunching the numbers and considering if they’re actually getting the best value.

A vast majority of consumers would be best off as “free agents,” not being loyal to any airline, and instead flying the airline with the best value and schedule. They’d also either use a lucrative cash back card, or a card earning transferable points, rather than investing in a program to earn status, only to be disappointed when they don’t get upgraded. But that doesn’t seem to be how most consumers approach things.

Delta first class upgrades are increasingly rare

Bottom line

Delta is reportedly selling 88% of its first class seats. That’s not surprising, and is roughly what I would have expected. Airlines have gotten much better at monetizing premium cabins, so we’re a long ways off from just over a decade ago, when a vast majority of first class seats went to upgraders.

What’s even more interesting is that the percentage of first class seats being paid for continues to increase by the year, as last year we were told that 74% of first class seats were being sold.

There’s nothing wrong with Delta (or any other airline) selling most of its first class seats. The issue is only that airlines expect their loyalty revenue to continue to increase considerably, while offering members less and less.

What’s your take on the number of first class seats Delta is selling, and what it means for SkyMiles?

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  1. Guru Guest

    After giving up on complimentary upgrades (I am a Platinum) I have started experiencing pretty poor experiences trying to use Delta RUC as well. Delta keeps selling the first class seats some times as low as 50-75 dollars close to the flight dates and leaving zero chance to be able to use RUC's after booking.

    The only time you can use RUC now is if nearly the entire first class cabin in unsold - they...

    After giving up on complimentary upgrades (I am a Platinum) I have started experiencing pretty poor experiences trying to use Delta RUC as well. Delta keeps selling the first class seats some times as low as 50-75 dollars close to the flight dates and leaving zero chance to be able to use RUC's after booking.

    The only time you can use RUC now is if nearly the entire first class cabin in unsold - they seem to save 2 seats for RUC users per flight.

    I am giving up on being loyal to any US airline. For International travel I am strongly looking at Singapore Airlines as I fly to Asia frequently. SkyTeam is just awful when it comes to International experiences and the mileage and MQD credit has been severely diluted by Delta and its flying partners.

  2. Miami305 Diamond

    @Lucky Your Facebook post is off.
    Top Headline above the picture - "Delta Selling 88% Of First Class Seats, Up From 14% in 2011"
    Headline below the picture - "Delta Selling 74% Of First Class Seats, Up From 14% in 2011"

  3. Mike Guest

    I'm not loyal at all. I'm about 200k away from lifetime diamond and I think "why bother." I am flying more AA and UAL than ever before, as my loyalty to Delta gets me literally nothing. The upgrade certs are unusable, and I always have to buy FC. I'm going to drop my 2 reserve cards and just say the hell with it. Loyalty is worthless now.

  4. Eric Guest

    Free upgrades are a US thing. Nowhere else in the world you will see this premium seating as a free perk.
    Most airlines aggressively offer a bidding system, or a cash upgrade at check in , if they still have seats available .
    Giving away your premium product is a mistake that has been overseen for many years.
    Frequent flyers still get perks such free seat selection , waived checked luggage fees...

    Free upgrades are a US thing. Nowhere else in the world you will see this premium seating as a free perk.
    Most airlines aggressively offer a bidding system, or a cash upgrade at check in , if they still have seats available .
    Giving away your premium product is a mistake that has been overseen for many years.
    Frequent flyers still get perks such free seat selection , waived checked luggage fees ( which is a generous perk, priority access etc.
    I don’t agree that premium cabins are “incredibly profitable “ like you said, but they are priced reasonably for what you get .

    1. Connor Guest

      Right - but also most other international airlines offer lounge access with elite status, which US airlines don't.

  5. Randy Diamond

    Many people are buying F (since it is cheaper now or accept the buy up option) even though they likely can't afford it. It makes them feel important and many are likely putting it on a CC that they don't pay off every month. These are the same people you see driving BMWs and you know they really can't afford it.

    1. LAXLonghorn Guest

      Wow! So elitist!

  6. FrozenKiwi Guest

    I’ve been a diamond for a number of years. I could push and get it with the new requirements but decided to drop down to platinum next year and also hold mvp gold with Alaska. I also went from spending 80%-90% of my spend on my DL platinum CC to now spending maybe 10%-15%. I prefer to fly delta, but am no longer paying more and flying less direct… they just don’t offer enough to incentive me to do that anymore.

    1. FNT Delta Diamond Guest

      Other than a couple subscriptions I can't cancel or change (despite my best efforts), I haven't spent a penny on my AmEx Delta-branded Reserve card since 2023.

  7. Chris Guest

    IMO the problem on these takes is people think the only benefit of high loyalty status is upgrades, which hasn't been a consistent benefit in 5-10 years and probably one of the least occurring loyalty benefits. It seems to be the worst reason to be loyal to an airline. However, all the other perks are extremely valuable. The huge increase in FF awards per flight that have real value, bag fee waivers, decreased lounge access,...

    IMO the problem on these takes is people think the only benefit of high loyalty status is upgrades, which hasn't been a consistent benefit in 5-10 years and probably one of the least occurring loyalty benefits. It seems to be the worst reason to be loyal to an airline. However, all the other perks are extremely valuable. The huge increase in FF awards per flight that have real value, bag fee waivers, decreased lounge access, complimentary economy extra seats at booking... These are the real values, but every blog poster always talks about upgrades being the reason for loyalty.

  8. Tim Dunn Diamond

    Delta has set the pace for loyalty and credit card programs among US airlines for a decade. AA and UA will follow - and already are.

    As for the comments about DL's success driven by its hubs, it doesn't take much research to see that AA and UA get far more revenue from their hubs that are larger than DTW, MSP and SLC is for DL. ATL is a beast but it does not and...

    Delta has set the pace for loyalty and credit card programs among US airlines for a decade. AA and UA will follow - and already are.

    As for the comments about DL's success driven by its hubs, it doesn't take much research to see that AA and UA get far more revenue from their hubs that are larger than DTW, MSP and SLC is for DL. ATL is a beast but it does not and cannot make up for the larger local markets that are hubs for AA and UA.

    DL does as well as it does because it has picked up so many SM members in NYC, LAX, BOS and SEA - all competitive markets where it ALSO has a disproportionate number of corporate accounts -which explains why they are seeing so many new younger customers.

    DL simply has achieved revenue premiums across its network - and it is no surprise that AA and UA fan kids find it so hard to admit what DL has achieved.

    The US airline industry was deregulated at the same time for AA, DL and UA. If DL really did manage to do something different, then why haven't AA and UA?

  9. Lune Diamond

    I agree that at some point they're killing their golden goose. They built up a reputation that elite status was worth something tangible, namely a decent chance of upgrades. That took many years for people to catch on and slowly change their habits. Now, they're taking that away. And again, it will take some time, but eventually people will move on from loyalty programs, and become free agents. FWIW, if Delta prices their FC cabins...

    I agree that at some point they're killing their golden goose. They built up a reputation that elite status was worth something tangible, namely a decent chance of upgrades. That took many years for people to catch on and slowly change their habits. Now, they're taking that away. And again, it will take some time, but eventually people will move on from loyalty programs, and become free agents. FWIW, if Delta prices their FC cabins more reasonably than their competitors, then maybe they win those new free agents anyway, but it won't be because of loyalty, and it will come with much less ancillary revenue like their credit cards.

    I think the ultimate winners in all of this will be the credit card companies. The airlines are proving the old adage that a capitalist will sell you the rope with which to hang him. The airlines are more than happy to sell their miles to CC companies and give away status and other benefits in exchange for spending on "their" credit cards. Meanwhile, CCs are busy building lounges, adding transfer partners, and making it more compelling to simply use your points to purchase airfare through their own travel sites. At this point, miles in a single airline program are a nuisance for me. It limits my options, and none of the airlines' programs are good enough to be worth banking a bunch of miles. OTOH, keeping miles in Amex, Chase, Citi, or CapOne is much more preferrable, not to mention their lounges blow away airline lounges. If airline status means nothing, then why not just become fully loyal to a few credit card ecosystems instead?

    CC companies are leveraging people's pre-existing loyalty to an airline to get someone into their ecosystem, and then slowly transferring their loyalty to the CC itself. I'm a great example: I originally got the Chase Sapphire Reserve because Chase was the only CC that transfers into United, my program of choice. At the time, United had consistently great redemptions, so it was worth it to get a CC that would transfer into it. But United then degraded its points (if not as worthless as SkyPesos, definitely still less valuable than before) to where now, they're not my first choice of loyalty program. But I'm still with CSR: I love their new lounges, I like being able to transfer points to whichever program gives me the best redemption at the time I need it, and I even appreciate the ability to redeem them for a simple 1.5x conversion on straight travel purchases. At this point, Chase could sever their relationship with United and I couldn't care less. I haven't transferred a point into United in many years, and don't see myself doing so again.

    Once CC companies complete this transfer of customer loyalty to themselves, expect to see them turn the screws on their airline partners, and keep most of the profit of those points to themselves.

  10. BBT Guest

    This is why competition is more important. All these moves are result of having Little too no competition from your hubs.

  11. Will Guest

    This is why elite status won't matter much for domestic first upgrades nowadays. The Delta 360 is the new Delta Diamond. Same for United and AA as well. As an AA EP, I missed the upgrades sometimes because the First class seats were sold out so it left with no upgrade availability. This is the new norm now for US Airlines. If you want it, just buy it!

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  12. Phillip Diamond

    The complimentary upgrade culture is very America-centric. The vast majority of non-American FFPs don’t offer complimentary upgrades as perks in the same way, and that does not stop people being loyal. What people want and get out of FFPs is much more complex than just upgrades.

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  13. ImmortalSynn Guest

    "Delta attributes a lot of the premium growth to millennials, who have more wealth than prior generations at the same age"

    That's a deceptive line by them. In the major cities Millennials have more. Though in general population, they're farrrrrrrrr behind where the Boomers, and considerably behind GenX, were at their age.

    Even the last 5-ish years of GenX (1976-1981, give or take a year) are referred in financial circles as the "Xennials," seeing...

    "Delta attributes a lot of the premium growth to millennials, who have more wealth than prior generations at the same age"

    That's a deceptive line by them. In the major cities Millennials have more. Though in general population, they're farrrrrrrrr behind where the Boomers, and considerably behind GenX, were at their age.

    Even the last 5-ish years of GenX (1976-1981, give or take a year) are referred in financial circles as the "Xennials," seeing as their financial/asset status is more akin to (the struggles of) Millennials, than it is to earlier GenX.

  14. snic Diamond

    "In the United States, airlines make a large percentage of their profits from their loyalty programs, and in particular, from their co-brand credit card agreements. Airlines want their loyalty program members to not just be loyal when they book a flight, but also when they pull out their credit card..."

    You're forgetting that the vast majority of people spend their airlines miles on simple economy tickets. Or other low-value purchases. So they don't care if...

    "In the United States, airlines make a large percentage of their profits from their loyalty programs, and in particular, from their co-brand credit card agreements. Airlines want their loyalty program members to not just be loyal when they book a flight, but also when they pull out their credit card..."

    You're forgetting that the vast majority of people spend their airlines miles on simple economy tickets. Or other low-value purchases. So they don't care if Delta has zero premium seats available for redemption.

    And for those who do redeem for premium seats, how many redeem on Delta as opposed to a partner airlines? I don't know much about Delta, but I've often redeemed United miles for premium tickets - but rarely on United itself. So Delta might be relying on its partners to provide the premium award seats it doesn't provide itself - enough to keep some customers loyal.

  15. Sel, D. Guest

    Disagree with the “free agent” concept. It’s better to pick and stick with UA or AA and rack up miles that are actually worth something. With status you earn them faster, and have a better chance of sitting up front, and even earning Lucky’s favorite OW emerald.

    Or fly delta and enjoy your 7” tv screen with constant interruptions.

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  16. LAXLonghorn Diamond

    I have no issue with DL selling seats; they're a business, after all , so good for them (and you get what you pay for is fair). As for loyalty, if their pricing is that reasonable (and apparently very well revenue managed), that alone builds loyalty, as well as the mentioned brand proposition/service. It would also take a closer look at the overall card benefits re loyalty, especially the profits they are making with Amex.

    ...

    I have no issue with DL selling seats; they're a business, after all , so good for them (and you get what you pay for is fair). As for loyalty, if their pricing is that reasonable (and apparently very well revenue managed), that alone builds loyalty, as well as the mentioned brand proposition/service. It would also take a closer look at the overall card benefits re loyalty, especially the profits they are making with Amex.

    One other factor in loyalty, especially for freq flyers that fly internationally (and therefore usually very profitable, even if they fly Y), are the alliance benefits.

    I've never looked at SkyTeam benefits, so maybe I'm missing something....I'm very happy with oneworld elite benefits, I think they're great, which is a main reason that I'm loyal to AA/oneworld. Maybe a comparison of alliance benefits would be a good topic for you in a future post?

    Happy travels!

  17. AeroB13a Guest

    Not wishing to disappoint TD.
    “What a belter Delta to only server burger in firster”.
    Delta Airlines soon to be known as McDonald’s fly through budget airline.

  18. Jenna Guest

    I can't find anything that supports the slide claiming millennials have higher household wealth than boomers did at the same age. The closest I can find is BLS statistics about how millennials have the widest wealth gap of any generation so far, so maybe they're playing games with median vs mean.

    1. FNT Delta Diamond Guest

      It's probably based on the premise that millenials aren't married and aren't having kids like their parents or grandparents. So, they have more disposable income, at least the ones not stuck with $100,000+ in student loans.

  19. Dim Tunn Guest

    anticipating a calm comments section

  20. Santastico Diamond

    Not surprised. Sometimes you can book domestic first class on Delta for a few dollars more than coach. Depending on the distance, it makes sense. Now, what is puzzling to me is what Delta charges for international business class. I am looking at a specific itinerary which has dozens of flight options and a round trip on coach is around $2,500, premium economy is at $5,500 while Delta One is at $12,800. And no, the...

    Not surprised. Sometimes you can book domestic first class on Delta for a few dollars more than coach. Depending on the distance, it makes sense. Now, what is puzzling to me is what Delta charges for international business class. I am looking at a specific itinerary which has dozens of flight options and a round trip on coach is around $2,500, premium economy is at $5,500 while Delta One is at $12,800. And no, the cabin is not full, it is just how much Delta is charging for it. Unreal.

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  21. George Romey Guest

    The pay to sit up front is here to stay. I have no issue with it. I don't expect a business to give me endless free stuff. That being said, this Spirit like approach to the premium cabin is bullsh%t. When I pay to sit up front, whether buying outright or paying a cash upgrade I do so for the entire "experience." That includes picking up own seat from what's available, a meal if within...

    The pay to sit up front is here to stay. I have no issue with it. I don't expect a business to give me endless free stuff. That being said, this Spirit like approach to the premium cabin is bullsh%t. When I pay to sit up front, whether buying outright or paying a cash upgrade I do so for the entire "experience." That includes picking up own seat from what's available, a meal if within the meal window, preferred check in (which admittedly I rarely have a need for but if I do is important). Not to go through the Frontier Airlines booking process.

    Unfortunately this is a monkey see/monkey do business so I expect AA (my airline) and UA to follow suit.

  22. Jake Guest

    You got one thing wrong: North American airlines make a fair amount of REVENUE by selling miles, not profits. Profits are made by flying, whether it's paid in cash or miles. Miles are also used as a form of rebate, i.e. when you pay by cash some of it comes back to you in the form of miles.

    When you pay cash, airlines can spend on rebate in miles or in improving their product. DL...

    You got one thing wrong: North American airlines make a fair amount of REVENUE by selling miles, not profits. Profits are made by flying, whether it's paid in cash or miles. Miles are also used as a form of rebate, i.e. when you pay by cash some of it comes back to you in the form of miles.

    When you pay cash, airlines can spend on rebate in miles or in improving their product. DL chose the latter, and to the scorn of the miles support industry ("SkyMiles"), their financials and their customer satisfaction says they've been making the right choice.

    If you're going to buy premium class.domestically, you'd be throwing money away if you bought AA instead if DL.

    1. Eskimo Guest

      Go ask Tim Dunn to tell you how wrong you are.

  23. 305 Guest

    The key is, as Ben showed on the example fare breakdown, that Delta prices the F cabin very reasonably. I can’t say the same for AA, who are consistently hundreds more than DL/UA on the same routes

    Also not sure if I’m buying the “millennials are rich” reasoning. Some may be, especially the vain Instagram bunch, but the data says otherwise for the majority of that age cohort

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  24. FNT Delta Diamond Guest

    There has to be a happy medium between encouraging and recognizing spend and recognizing and rewarding loyalty.

    The idea that a customer who flies 150,000 miles or 125 segments a year all within the USA and always, because of corporate policy, books an economy ticket is somehow less valuable than the guy who flies internationally four times a year on $5,500 Delta One tickets is absurd.

    Delta seems incredibly detached from the vast majority of...

    There has to be a happy medium between encouraging and recognizing spend and recognizing and rewarding loyalty.

    The idea that a customer who flies 150,000 miles or 125 segments a year all within the USA and always, because of corporate policy, books an economy ticket is somehow less valuable than the guy who flies internationally four times a year on $5,500 Delta One tickets is absurd.

    Delta seems incredibly detached from the vast majority of Americans who don’t fly Los Angeles or San Francisco to New York. There are a lot more people flying vanilla routes; like Detroit to Dallas.

  25. Richard Hauschild Guest

    I've done this to an extent with my AA Silver Barclays. Prior to this year, I usually got around 400K LPs. I'm only trying to get EXP this year. I've distributed a lot of spending to my Chase Sapphire Card (along with unlimited card) and have really enjoyed transferring points to various brands, esp if there is a transfer bonus. Upgrades are just harder to come by these days. I do value the EXP status,...

    I've done this to an extent with my AA Silver Barclays. Prior to this year, I usually got around 400K LPs. I'm only trying to get EXP this year. I've distributed a lot of spending to my Chase Sapphire Card (along with unlimited card) and have really enjoyed transferring points to various brands, esp if there is a transfer bonus. Upgrades are just harder to come by these days. I do value the EXP status, but beyond 200K LPs, I feel like I can get better value and redemptions elsewhere.

  26. FNT Delta Diamond Guest

    Delta is selling-out its cabins because on many planes there aren’t enough seats. Delta is adding seats to Delta One and domestic first. Right now, there are often zero alternative flight options when someone goes wrong because first or business is sold-out.

  27. Dolphin Guest

    Lucky, the reason Delta can get away with this is because they have such high seat share in their hub cities, much more so than UA or even AA. If you live in Atlanta, Detroit, or Minneapolis, what other choices do you have? Other carriers have more competitive hubs so they need to offer somewhat more value in their loyalty programs.

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Phillip Diamond

The complimentary upgrade culture is very America-centric. The vast majority of non-American FFPs don’t offer complimentary upgrades as perks in the same way, and that does not stop people being loyal. What people want and get out of FFPs is much more complex than just upgrades.

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Dolphin Guest

Lucky, the reason Delta can get away with this is because they have such high seat share in their hub cities, much more so than UA or even AA. If you live in Atlanta, Detroit, or Minneapolis, what other choices do you have? Other carriers have more competitive hubs so they need to offer somewhat more value in their loyalty programs.

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LAXLonghorn Diamond

I have no issue with DL selling seats; they're a business, after all , so good for them (and you get what you pay for is fair). As for loyalty, if their pricing is that reasonable (and apparently very well revenue managed), that alone builds loyalty, as well as the mentioned brand proposition/service. It would also take a closer look at the overall card benefits re loyalty, especially the profits they are making with Amex. One other factor in loyalty, especially for freq flyers that fly internationally (and therefore usually very profitable, even if they fly Y), are the alliance benefits. I've never looked at SkyTeam benefits, so maybe I'm missing something....I'm very happy with oneworld elite benefits, I think they're great, which is a main reason that I'm loyal to AA/oneworld. Maybe a comparison of alliance benefits would be a good topic for you in a future post? Happy travels!

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