To the Vaterland with my Vater: Introduction

To the Vaterland with my Vater: Introduction

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My dad has always been the biggest supporter of my little “hobby.” When I first started mileage running (back when I was 15) it was actually a father-son activity. Some Saturday mornings he’d drive me to the airport in Tampa in time for my pre-6AM flight, and sometimes he’d actually fly with me. As odd as the hobby was, he never once questioned it and always thought it was awesome.

Some of my fondest travel memories are actually from trips we’ve taken together over the years. I remember our first trip to Asia together years and years ago in United coach to Hong Kong to take advantage of a double elite qualifying miles promotion. It was my first time in Asia, and my mind was just blown. And over the next several years we did many international trips together, mostly to Asia, and I have nothing but fond memories of them.

We haven’t done a whole lot of travel over the past couple of years, though. We’ve had a few trips planned, but for one reason or another we always had to postpone them. So I figured it was about time we took another trip together.

I was attending TravelMagic in Brussels, so it seemed like a good opportunity to take my dad along and extend the trip a bit so we could also take a trip to a couple of other places.

While I tried to talk him into something exotic, he didn’t have all that much free time and really just wanted to go back to Germany. He hasn’t been to Germany for several years now (he hasn’t visited as much since his mother passed away), so I could definitely understand why he wanted to return. But he didn’t actually want to return “home” to Frankfurt, but rather really wanted to visit Berchtesgaden, which I’ve raved about so much and he hasn’t yet visited.

Berchtesgaden
Berchtesgaden

The first challenge was securing the flights. My dad used to fly Lufthansa all the time back in the day for work (we’re talking several decades ago back when half of the first class cabin was a smoking section and the other half was a non-smoking section), though hasn’t flown them recently or visited the First Class Terminal in Frankfurt, for that matter.

Anyway, my dad has more American Express Membership Rewards points than he can use, so he insisted on using his points for both of us, while I’d pay the fuel surcharges. Aeroplan charges 125,000 miles for first class between the US and Europe “zone 1.”

I searched for Lufthansa first class award space using the methods I outlined in this post. I wanted to get us on the best plane possible, and noticed that Houston to Frankfurt, which is operated by the A380, was “F8” for the day I was looking at, meaning all the first class seats were still for sale. This is historically one of the toughest routes on which to find award space, but sure enough a few days out space opened up and I locked the itinerary in.

Lufthansa_A380
Lufthansa A380 first class

Then we of course added all the intra-Europe flies and booked a placeholder return. Three days before we returned from Europe Frankfurt to Miami opened up in first class on the 747-8, which is another awesome plane I wanted my dad to try. Aeroplan charges a $90 change fee per person for the change, which seemed well worth it.

Lufthansa_747-8
Lufthansa 747-8 wing

So we really lucked out in terms of availability. In the end our combined routing looked as follows, with first class on the transatlantic flights and business class on all the intra-Europe flights (we obviously had different positioning flights since he was coming from Tampa and I was coming from Seattle):

09/16 LH441 Houston to Frankfurt departing 4:10PM arriving 9:00AM (+1 day)
09/17 LH1104 Frankfurt to Salzburg departing 12:40PM arriving 1:35PM
09/20 LH1105 Salzburg to Frankfurt departing 2:35PM arriving 3:45PM
09/20 LH1016 Frankfurt to Brussels departing 4:50PM arriving 5:45PM
09/22 LH1011 Brussels to Frankfurt departing 1:50PM arriving 2:55PM
09/23 LH462 Frankfurt to Miami departing 9:55AM arriving 1:50PM

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As I mentioned above the goal was to visit Berchtesgaden in the three days we were in Germany. Usually I just fly into Munich and drive to Berchtesgaden, which is a two hour drive, though this time around we decided to fly into Salzburg, which is less than a 30 minute drive from Berchtesgaden. The added benefit is that we wanted to do a night in Salzburg on the front end of the trip, so we booked one night at the Sheraton Salzburg and then two nights at the InterContinental Berchtesgaden.

Salzburg
Salzburg

Then in Brussels we stayed at The Hotel (yes, that’s the name), which is where TravelMagic was being held.

We had one night in Frankfurt on the return and while we went into the city for the evening we decided to stay near the airport so we’d have an easy transport the morning of our departure. While I’ve always stayed at the Sheraton Frankfurt Airport, which I really enjoy, I decided it was time to try out the brand new Hilton Frankfurt Airport so I could finally review it.

The return to Miami worked out quite well as Frequent Traveler University was in Tampa the weekend after we returned. Originally I was planning on going home for a few days and then flying back to Tampa, but when I mentioned to my mom that I might stay in Tampa for the week she took that as a promise, so I couldn’t get out of it…

Anyway, I’ve reviewed a ton of Lufthansa first class (including here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, and here) and I’ve reviewed the InterContinental Berchtesgaden (here and here), so I’ll try to focus on what actually made these trips different. As I covered in this post, what made this one of the awesomest trips ever wasn’t the airlines or hotels as such, but seeing how delighted my dad was by the whole experience.

And my dad has agreed to also write an installment with his thoughts on the trip, as my mom did for our trip to Bali.

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  1. lucky OMAAT

    @ UA-NYC -- Generally speaking I'd advise others to lock in a backup itinerary and then hope Lufthansa first class opens up within 15 days of departure. In this case I didn't book a backup itinerary since both my dad and I were really flexible on dates and routes, so I was confident something would open up.

  2. UA-NYC Diamond

    Thanks Lucky - I'll put my question a different way. For this trip (or others in general), do you typically ONLY book the trip within 15 days (so you KNOW LH F will be available), or do you book the trip early and thus book "placeholder" flights in advance of T-15 (such as, the much less desirable, older version LH C)?

  3. lucky OMAAT

    @ Jason -- Just an Instagram filter. :D

  4. Jason Guest

    What are you using to process those pictures? Looks neat!

  5. andyandy Guest

    @lucky: Sounds like a great trip! I took mein vater to visit the town that his grossvater emigrated from a couple of years ago. We flew over in LH business class (his first TATL O experience) and had a great time. Have fun!

  6. Jorge Guest

    I can't wait for Herr Schlaeppig's commentary, since it had been a long time to go home.

    @KG Das Vaterland is referred to the land you come from. Die Heimat refers to the place you have in your heart. Think of it like House and Home.

    So you go to "Das Vaterland" but you "hast Heimweh nach Heimat" (longing for home )

  7. janyyc Guest

    How could you backtrack, TWICE? I don't understand and I book AP awards very often. FRA SZG FRA and FRA BRU FRA... Yes POT + stopover but usually you'd at least have to fly through a different city. Colour me confused!

  8. Ivan Y Diamond

    @ KG -- never-wrong Wikipedia only gives "Vaterland" as an option. Three choices in Russian though. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatherland

  9. Joey Diamond

    Your vater must be a source of luck as well! For both of you to get awards seats on the IAH-FRA and FRA-MIA flights on LH's newest planes is really awesome! I'm looking forward to read your reports.

  10. KG Member

    I think the title should read "heimat" rather than vaterland. Mind you, vaterland is correct but a dialect.

  11. Gary Gold

    "[Houston] is historically one of the toughest routes on which to find award space"

    Which is funny, since up until 3-4 years ago it was one of the EASIEST routes on which to find Lufthansa first class award space.

    So allow me to reformulate as "Recently Houston has been one of the toughest routes on which to find award space" :-)

  12. William IV Guest

    I love the parent commentary! This is great! I'm hoping you'll do some of the writing in the German accent you used on the live update of the trip.

  13. Justin Guest

    Over the summer FRA-IAH opened up (2 seats) very late one night a few days before our return to the US. GF was asleep by the time I got the alert and when we woke up in the AM it was gone.

    I wasn't upset, though, since it takes off about ~7 hours before the 2nd ORD flight (which is what we took), and 7 extra hours in Rome isn't something one complains about.

  14. Ivan Y Diamond

    @ Lucky - now we know how you got this nom de plume :) For my in/out weeekends, IAHFRA availability is nonexistent. Doesn't look better out of other airports. Can't wait to read reports from you and your father though.

    P.S. In case anyone can fly out of Houston on October 15 (Wednesday), there's F space on IAH-FRA. The only date in October at the moment.

  15. TheBeerHunter Member

    YAY! A dad post is coming! Can't wait!

  16. lucky OMAAT

    @ Papa Smurf -- Indeed prior to seeing those two seats I had almost never even seen one seat, so I was *really* excited. Usually domestic award space is pretty good, so I had no issues securing space on those flights.

  17. Papa Smurf Guest

    Two seats out of Houston is quite lucky. I was watching the space over the summer and there was hardly any last-minute availability for one, much less for two.

    What's your strategy for the positioning flights given that you can't book more that few days out? Do you purchase last minute revenue flights, separate award ticket, something else?

  18. Jason Guest

    Benny, I'm really excited to read this trip report. I'll have to forward this one, as well as the trip you took with your mom, to my parents to see if that will help convince them to start collecting miles.

  19. lucky OMAAT

    @ Len -- Roundtrip fuel surcharges between the US and Europe are roughly $850, plus the taxes, so it's about $1,000 all-in per person. Definitely on the steep side.

  20. Len Guest

    Thanks for sharing this, Ben. Looks like the makings of a great trip. Question: what do fees/surcharges look like when using Aeroplan miles to book LH?

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lucky OMAAT

@ UA-NYC -- Generally speaking I'd advise others to lock in a backup itinerary and then hope Lufthansa first class opens up within 15 days of departure. In this case I didn't book a backup itinerary since both my dad and I were really flexible on dates and routes, so I was confident something would open up.

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UA-NYC Diamond

Thanks Lucky - I'll put my question a different way. For this trip (or others in general), do you typically ONLY book the trip within 15 days (so you KNOW LH F will be available), or do you book the trip early and thus book "placeholder" flights in advance of T-15 (such as, the much less desirable, older version LH C)?

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@ Jason -- Just an Instagram filter. :D

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